NASAL CANNULA TREATMENT FOR SLEEP APNEA

topic posted Tue, September 29, 2009 - 1:49 AM by  Dean
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I have not been able to adjust to using a CPAP all night. The nasal pillows, which are supposed to be the most comfortable mask option, are too uncomfortable for me. I've been wondering why CPAP suppliers do not use the same devices used in medical situations to deliver oxygen. I finally looked it up, and found out the name of the device: nasal cannula. It looks like studies have been done using these with apnea patients ( www.bio-medicine.org/medicin...23257-1/ ), and the studies look promising. Does anybody have any knowledge of or experience with using a nasal cannula for treatment of sleep apnea? Does anybody know about these studies and have any idea whether or how long it would take for this to become an approved device for the tx of sleep apnea?

Thanks in advance.
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Dean
SF Bay Area
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  • Lee
    Lee
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    Re: NASAL CANNULA TREATMENT FOR SLEEP APNEA

    Wed, September 30, 2009 - 6:57 PM
    I would image that they are not be use because they could not provide the required pressure needed to keep the air way open. However, it would be awesome if they could figure out how to get it to work.
    • Re: NASAL CANNULA TREATMENT FOR SLEEP APNEA

      Thu, October 1, 2009 - 4:24 PM
      A sleep technician on another site - sleepfoundation.ning.com/ - explained to me that

      "The problem with using a cannula with CPAP is that it is not large enough to seal the air inside the nostrils, so the air can simply escape out of the nose-which defeats the purpose of using the CPAP."

      However, s/he was completely unaware of the studies being done. The one I linked in my original post reports:

      "Researchers at Johns Hopkins University have found that symptoms in patients with obstructive sleep apnea and hypopnea can be significantly reduced through treatment with nasal insufflation (TNI), using a nasal cannula to deliver warm, humidified air at a high flow rate.

      Our findings provide evidence that TNI may offer a viable treatment alternative to patients with obstructive hypopneas and apneas, said lead researcher Hartmut Schneider, M.D., of Johns Hopkins Asthma and Allergy Center."




  • Re: NASAL CANNULA TREATMENT FOR SLEEP APNEA

    Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:12 AM
    They are not used because they do not fix the problem, which is air getting into the lungs.
    Questions of humidification are irrelevant.

    *PAP works as it pressurises the throat to open it up enough to allow air in.
  • mc
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    Re: NASAL CANNULA TREATMENT FOR SLEEP APNEA

    Fri, October 16, 2009 - 3:00 AM
    I found the article interesting because it weighed the pros and cons of the effectiveness of the cannula vs. cpap in terms of long term benefits as they are affected by compliance.

    The way I understood the article, it seems that they did establish that the CPAP was more effective in keeping airways open than the cannula. But then because the cannula did still show significant benefits, they suggested the possibility that the relative comfort of the cannula might promote more compliance.

    I would imagine that for someone who has a primary issue of compliance due to discomfort might benefit better overall. Or maybe it could be used to help transition someone into full compliance to a cpap. It took me three years to really start using my cpap regularly. I still skip at least a night a week these days. If the cannula does have appreciable benefits, I wish I would have had that choice when I started mt therapy.
    MC
    • Re: NASAL CANNULA TREATMENT FOR SLEEP APNEA

      Fri, October 16, 2009 - 10:00 PM
      IME, compliance, after initial horrors/adjustment is usually about mask fit and comfort. Part of that problem is that the *PP companies are just extorting people, so the cost of masks and cushions it restricts you from trying all the different masks.


      For any cannula to be effective, it has to reach into and down the back of your throat and create a big enough tube for air to continue to freely flow whilst you are sleeping. Some people do suffer nasal obstructions that it might assist with, but as a general rule I wouldn't waste my money on any device. YMMV.

      It is also a "pressure" question. you obviously have a mild SA if you can skip nights. Some people have no such option.

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