sleep study results

topic posted Tue, June 26, 2007 - 2:33 PM by  Frances
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I got them this morning and they do not show any sleep apnea. I went right to sleep, slept for about 3 and 1/2 hours, and managed to make it to stage 3 sleep and then REM before I woke up. I fell asleep later but only got to stage 2 sleep.

So I guess I'll have to look elsewhere to understand why I'm not sleeping well. The doctor suggested that after I wake up from my first period of sleep, which seems to happen because I have to go to the bathroom, I am not falling back into deeper sleep and thus don't feel well rested. Looking at the sleep study results, that figures because my second period of sleep was not very deep.

It also answered my curiosity on one point. I take mirtazapine (Remeron) at bedtime and if it happens that I take a long time to fall asleep I begin to suffer from a restless leg, the left one, after about an hour. It's weird, I know, but it's just the one leg. I've wondered if it was happening in my sleep when I go to sleep quickly but apparently it isn't.

There's also something else that I wonder about. The graphs show that I slept on my left for the first long sleep period, then the left again for the second period of sleep, lay on my back for a short period of time then turned on my right until the end of the study. However, I didn't. For both sleep periods, I slept on my right side. I turned on my back when asked but I didn't stay there long because I was not comfortable so I slid back over to my right again. I was never on my left, unless I turned over during that first sleep period, but then I would have turned back to the right again because I woke on my right. And they say that I snored a little on my left but not on my right.

I suppose that the technician could have plugged the leads into the wrong place to account for the wrong side showing. Has anyone had this happen to them?

I don't know what I'll do now. I did suggest that I sleep somewhat better when I take a sleeping pill and thought that I might try using them more often (I know I can't use them all the time) and he didn't demur at the idea.
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  • Re: sleep study results

    Tue, June 26, 2007 - 7:18 PM
    Frances..have you explored...fibromyalgia..at all?

    I have it..and it is a sleep disorder too...

    I wake ..many many times a night...and do not stay in rem sleep..

    just a thought...

    there is a fibro tribe too

    tribes.tribe.net/9d84084c-...02e406b088
    • Re: sleep study results

      Tue, June 26, 2007 - 7:51 PM
      Frances,

      You must be so frustrated. I know that receiving a diagnosis can be downer, but I have found NOT knowing is sometimes worse.

      I really hope you will still hang with us here at the SAC. We can at least commiserate about sleeping problems.

      You are in my prayers.

      D.
  • mc
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    Re: sleep study results

    Tue, June 26, 2007 - 9:01 PM
    Frances...
    Sorry the mystery is still not solved. But at least its good to know its likely you will not need to be doing your best Darth Vader when sleeping (BiPap/Cpap jab here).

    As far as the results - that is strange. But then again, I never really looked at the telemetry directly myself. I let my ENT interpret it. Bring it up to your doc and see what he/she says.

    In the meaintime, don't give up. And please feel free to vent here anytime. My best thoughts, wishes and prayers (if you are inclined that way) are with you.

    MC
    • Re: sleep study results

      Sat, June 30, 2007 - 7:35 PM
      MC, I was, and am, more than willing to use a CPAP machine and mask if they would give me a good night's sleep. I would not have said that a year ago, but I have learned a lot in that time and I now look at it quite differently. For one thing, of course, I've had my husband's experience to go by. For another, I've read a lot about other people's experiences since I frequent the American Sleep Apnea Association's Forums and I can see how so many of them have been helped as well.

      Also, while my husband was in the hospital and his machine was here at home, I tried it for myself one night. Because it wasn't my mask, I didn't want to adjust it in any way so I made it fit as best I could and did manage to stop the leaks but was all but immobilized in the process, and also it was too tight. I kept it on for about an hour and even dozed off a bit, but I knew I couldn't sleep all night with it so I took it off. But it took me only a few minutes to get used to the air pressure, even on breathing out (the pressure is 8) and I think that I would have adjusted to a mask of my own without too much of a problem, although I admit that it would have taken a bit of time.

      The sleep doctor blamed my poor sleep on insomnia and recommended that I limit my time in bed in an effort to improve the sleep I do get. I am unconvinced that insomnia is my problem, at least at the moment, because mostly I am going to sleep quite readily and going back to sleep after a trip to the bathroom (nearly always just once a night), but the latter part of my night does not yield restful sleep, I am often what I call wakeful (meaning that I wake briefly, change my position, but go back to sleep) and I often wake from very long, detailed dreams of great immediacy. And when I wake, I feel very down and have a hard time getting started. And even when I get some kind of sleep for most of the night, I get very tired later.

      Sleep studies are great for diagnosing obstructive sleep apnea; the evidence can be very obvious and usually doesn't take very long to appear. However, they aren't so good for finding more subtle problems. All the wires inhibited me from sleeping in any remotely normal way and I didn't get to sleep long enough. However, I can see that another sleep study, even if anyone would recommend one for me, would be useless if it were done in the same kind of circumstances and I can't see any better ones on the horizon so I'll have to see what I can work out for myself. I do think that I should push myself harder to get started on the day and I will see what I can do to get up earlier and thus shorten my time in bed. Maybe it will work.
      • Re: sleep study results

        Sun, July 1, 2007 - 9:05 AM
        Hi Frances..Pam here.

        I am sorry you didn't get any conclusive answers to your problem. I can imagine how frustrating that must be. Even those of us who have been diagnosed still have troubles with sleeping through the night with this problem or that and so please know that you are not up at night alone. We are with ya, hon.

        I don't know if they would pay for it and I think I may have mentioned it before but I have read that they do have a way to do at home sleep studies. Somehow they wire you up, send you home where you can sleep where you are more used to sleeping and in the morning you come back in and they read the settings. Maybe that would give them a better look at what really happens when you are in your normal surroundings? Perhaps you could ask your doctor if that would be a viable option for you? Might not be.

        I hate when the doctor tells me to spend less time in bed as a way to get more sleep. I fall asleep on buses, in a chair when I sit down for a minute, on BART anywhere where I am not immediately active. I live sleep deprived. If I have to lie down RIGHT NOW and I have the time to do it, I am going to take the time to do it.


        I hope things work out for you Frances..keep on plugging! Keep advocating for yourself!

        Pam
        wishing you sweet dreams and sprinkling faerie dust on your pillow

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